Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-9114790-20150624175947/@comment-917693-20150625154514

@Mizomizore

We've never encouraged reprinters, that don't credit, and we don't link to these either. (We try to; unless an anon adds a link and we don't see it.)

I see. I don't know much about the english nicovideo, but from my impression, when I checked last (which must have been at least half a year ago though xD) the translations were very google-translate-y.

About tumblr, I think admin Raspomme, and a few others have instructions on how to contact the artists. But still, from personal experience from the wiki, the reply rate of the artists was like at most 30% if not much less...

I think many singers also don't mind that much. But I don't have utaite friends to ask them, so... And while sure, I agree, it'd be nice to first ask, it's just very hard to applicate. (Though if a person only reposts videos of few selected utaite, as opposed to someone who posts videos of any utaite they see, it might be an easier thing to do - as opposed to asking pixiv artists - because less people to ask.)

I have also been pondering, if not answering would actually equal a "IDC about this person even" or a "God don't repost..." xD (Should discuss it with the others maybe...)

Also, for utaite, who do have a YT account, it is encouraged to link to the utaite's upload instead. (Not stated in the Reprinting guide, but in the Tutorial.) And I agree, as for those, the reprints are really unnecessary and should be discouraged.

@TisRis

See 4th paragraph up there

See last paragraph up there

It's not about people who are already fans, but about people who do not know about utaite yet, and only discover them over youtube. I think it's safe to say, that most western utaite/vocaloid fans, haven't had a nicovideo account.

With this conclusion, the utaite wiki (among others) would have no pictures and real life pictures at all. While I personally don't mind, nobody wants to read a wiki, that is a block of text. It's impossible to run a wiki without images and such. And as before mentioned, getting permission has been kinda a painful thing. *Unrelated rant about the artist permission thing that I hope anyone will see and will feel guilty about but I don't think that'll happen either* Besides nobody is even helping with this anyway -_- So the whole artist permission thing is inofficially and practically on hold (for probably forever). Fuck why won't anyone wanna help adfsjkl and why won't the artists reply k I'm done with my rant

I think monetizing on the uploads it wrong. However there are also those who do not monetize on those. And I think it's not justified to throw both into one bucket. I think those, who do monetize on the uploads should be definitely discouraged. (Though idk how to see, if someone does this...) Also see first paragraph above.

I think the small clip thing is a good idea. But again, I don't think the wiki can encourage people to only upload small clips; and uploading the clips is out of the wikia's range. To be honest, I personally think the Reprinting Guide is really useless and nobody sees it usually.