Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-9114790-20150624175947/@comment-4565782-20150711055429

Sorry this will be a long awkward post as I'll be replying to the posts chronologically.

@TisRis (Long reply you gave earlier to me)

No problem. :>

"While I still am not convinced by your argument as I feel those are not strong enough points to refute my belief [...]"

Thanks for understanding :> As for adding more things for encouraging more positive reprinting...if you don't know how, I surely don't know how to either and as it stands what's on the page seems enough for me.

"First of all, we were only saying that with Meo's logic (that downloading guides are taboo for a wiki), the page would need to be deleted. We never acknowledged it as a rule, we were just responding to her claim. I'm confused on what other "download" you think Meo meant, so could you explain?"

Well by you guys claiming how that page was a "violation," it must mean that "something" was violated which in this case must imply rules.

Its hard to describe what "download" Meo meant and would honestly take some time to explicate and put into proper words but at the very least I can understand that it's not what you thought according to your reply to her.

Since this is not useful to the conversation I rather not spend time on this.

"Second, reguarding this statement "Literally only you and Mizo [...]"

Well according to Jun, she didn't say that so uhh....anyhow Jun often plays Devil's advocate with me so I'm not too concerned if she disagrees with me.

Hmm from what I can tell: Well if you were to include Stari she's on the Keep side but since we share accounts and thus opinions its more fair we count as one. So actually it seems the sides are pretty even :O
 * Keep - Me & Candii
 * Remove - Mizo & You
 * Neutral - Meo & Ras
 * Idk - Jun

"Third, I meant "unprofessional" in the first place, however she seemed confused [...]" Alright. As long you understand that, that's good. (Hopefully this part doesn't come off as condescending O.O;; I have no intention of that tone at all)

"In summary, while I don't believe reprints are necessary anymore, I recognize many people find it beneficial to the wiki. [...]"

Alright. Personally I feel that in some sense there's never a limit to what can be reprinted. Well I mean I do feel there should be a limit but at the same time you'll never know what song or whose's cover could make someone you interested and discover the fandom so I'm not opposed to new reprints. Everyone's tastes are different after all. Especially since Vocaloid and by extension Utaite is/are constantly evolving and producing new content.

@Mizo

"The wiki is a community. [...]"

Lol what do you exactly think we are doing right now then? Jun already answered this well so there's no need for me to comment any further.

@TisRis (reply to the second post)

What new rules do you exactly mean?... I can't seem to think of what should be added?

@Mizo (latest post)

"Candiifaec has implied in the bottom of her response [...]" Uh well its not like anyone had anything concrete to add to that page so what else could she say?

In that situation the only thing we could have done was add something and see what you guys thought, not that I would have done anything anyway since there was nothing, to my knowledge, to be added...I already stated that last time.

Okay wow it seems like we're finally getting somewhere now with your suggestions owo

"In the introduction to reprinting and proper credit sections: we should say something along the lines of, "if a singer already has a youtube channel [...]" If you haven't seen, the wiki already says to link to cover on their channel if they have one. We even have notices on their page too. I don't see any any reprint links on the for those pages but something could have gone under my radar.

If you're talking about reprints outside the wiki....You know its not our problem if people reprint those covers right... We can encourage people not to do certain things and alert them of the utaite's preferences but that doesn't mean they have to follow through??

Well there's no harm in adding that to the description since not everyone has the logic to not reprint them.

"I also noticed that the page kind of repeats itself in these sections too, It has a example of a description in the blue box and then a new section below it saying "Other helpful things to consider, though are not necessary, might be including the original description, or including the English song titles and utaite names."

How I see it, is that one part is saying, "this is the reccommended description," while the other part is saying, "these things are optional."

But yeah I admit it may be confusing so I'll change it and make it more clear :O

"I would also like to include a little blurb under the important notice section in the paragraph about checking for "do not reprint" an example of what do not reprint might look like in Japanese text. [...]"

Oh yes that would be useful! We should definitely add that!

Thanks for your input. It'll be very helpful ^^

I won't update it right now though since its kinda late where I am and I kinda want to sleep.